28 January 2013

Deutz-Fahr Agrotron K610 B

In the first January days, the Agrotrac dealer delivered our cousin Kike López his new tractor. He had always used John Deere (1620 and 2850), but due to our recommendations and the fact that he had always wanted to buy a new tractor with 6 cylinders and about 120HP, he changed his mind and chose another brand. He thinks JD 6530, which is the smallest JD with 6 cylinders, is too bulky for his tasks. We hope this would be a right decision and it will be a great tractor, but we have to wait a few years more to know the result.

The most important highlights are:
  •     Deutz DCR TCD 2012 L06 2V engine with 6,057cm3 and 6 cylinders.
  •     Maximun power: 119 hp.
  •     Tank capacity of 180 litres.
  •    Gearbox ZF T7100: 8 speed range transmision synchronized (in two groups) and 3 speed powershift.
  •     Nº of gears with creeper gear: 36/12.
  •     Soft powershuttle reversing transmission.
  •     Grammer Maximo Conform seat with pneumatic suspension.
  •     ZF Lifting force rear of 6,220kg.
  •     PTO of 540, 540E, 1000 and 1000E.
  •     Integrated and sound-proofed safety cab with noise level of 73dB.
  •     Pump flow rate of 75 l/min (open center) and 3 hydraulic remote valves.
  •     Maximun speed at 50km/h.
  •     Continental tyres: AC85 420/85 R24 and HC70 520/70 R38.

About the shopping process


The www.masquemaquina.com blog published the number of sold tractors in Spain in 2012. It was 8,655 units... the worst number in the last years. Then, we would like to talk about our experience when we bought a new tractor in Spain. Maybe it can explain this small turnover motivated by high prices of tractors together with the large financial crisis this country is suffering. We think we can talk about that because we have bougth four tractors for the last 12 years (Agrotron 85 in 2000, John Deere 5720 in 2007, Agrotron M600 in 2011 and Agrotron K610 in 2012).

In Spain, a farmer cannot buy a tractor from the dealer he likes. He must buy it in the specific dealer of his area. This prevents competition between difierent dealers of the same brand so that the farmer cannot cut prices. When you have decided to buy a specific model, you need to be an authentic product specialist, because the dealer try to sell you a model which is better for them (usually a model with least performance), which, in many cases, is in their exhibition. For this reason, they tell you things like: it is the last unit, payment conditions are the best or the price could go up in the next month (sometimes, they try to sell it without front weights, front mudguard, passenger seat,... and later you should have to buy them as extras). They don't notify you,  they only try to sell you a tractor which they can get greater income with. Comments like: it is not used, if you choose this extra, the price shoots up, you buy the economic version,... are the most common of the sellers. After signing the contract, they will not add any little thing you forgot in negotiations... we have to buy them separately. Other important item is the price: it can vary thousands of euros from the initial price to the final price (Spanish haggling appears in full strength). For example, in medium power tractors, the price may vary about 10,000€, e.g., we can not imagine about the important variation of the combine price. Finally, buying a tractor becomes a complicated task at the end you can feel you were cheat again. We think the dealers should be more professional and transparent, and especially all of its sellers.

We hope to know your experiences in Spain or in other countries. Thanks for your collaboration in advance.


 

9 comments:

  1. Anonymous29/1/13 11:19

    Hi.

    In Finland the most tractors are ordered from the factory. The main problem is that you often can't test the tractor in real work. Also you have to buy the tractor from the nearest dealer.

    Market share of Valtra is about 45 % in Finland. Other major brands are JD, MF and NH. Valtra dealers don't have any tractors in their inventory. They only have couple of showroom tractors that are sold in the end of the year. Dealers of imported tractors order some tractors in advance, but the most tractors are ordered from the factory with options that the buyer wants. However, your dealer can sell a tractor that other dealers have in their inventory. All dealers of Valtra, JD and MF are owned by the tractor company/importer. Sometimes there are bargains: they order a bigger amount of a specific model with specific equipment and they sell these tractors with reduced price.

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  2. Anonymous29/1/13 11:23

    It is a pity the real situation of the agricultural market in Spain, specially in La Mancha.
    In my opinion, this privated market should change because nowadays when there is an open-free market and it is possible to find anything all over the world, we cannot afford this kind of things.
    Many thanks for your complaint.


    Es una pena esta situación el mercado agrario en España, especialmente en la Mancha.
    En mi opinión, este mercado privado debería cambiar porque hoy día cuando presumimos de un mercado libre y abierto y es posible encontrar cualquier cosa en todod el mundo, no podemos permitirnos este tipo de cosas
    Gracias por vuestra queja/denuncia.

    A Spaniard

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  3. Anonymous29/1/13 11:34

    A mí el antiguo vendedor de la John Deere, me vendió un John Deere 6930 nuevo, con un enganche sin homologación, y lo peor de todo es que no soy el único afectado de la zona. Como me pare la poli, o prepare un accidente porque se rompa el enganche, me mandan a la carcel.

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  4. Anonymous29/1/13 12:45

    Hay mucho gitano suelto por los concesionarios de España. Está claro que es una empresa y como tales tienen que ganar dinero, pero muchas veces no tienen ética ninguna.

    Intentan vender el tractor lo más caro posible sin importarles nada.

    Muy alta me parece la cifra de ventas para los tiempos que corren.

    Y del tema de repuestos, ni hablamos...

    Fdo:agricultor tonto, patata gorda.

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  5. Anonymous30/1/13 12:15

    Estoy de acuerdo con vosotros,a mi me paso parecido y a final vi un tractor a 600km de casa con 180 horas de uso, cogi un ave y en 2 dias lo tenia en casa e hice turismo por alli y me ahorre un dinero y no vi más a los vendedores.
    p.d. Vaya tractores gastais en Cuenca se nota que va bien el cereal y el ajo.

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    1. En primer lugar, muchas gracias por tu comentario.

      La compra de tractores de segunda mano, con pocos años, es un alternativa muy a tener en cuenta.

      Lo del ajo y cereal, te permite ir viviendo, pero no para hacer milagros.

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  6. Anonymous31/1/13 19:39

    Enhorabuena por la compra del tractor, este modelo concretamente siempre me ha gustado y valoramos en su día su compra. Pero como bien comentas los comerciales tan "profesionales" del concesionario (también soy Manchego, en una provincia no muy lejos de la tuya) consiguió que no lo compráramos.

    Disfrutalo y que salga bueno, que tiene toda la pinta de que si.

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  7. Anonymous8/9/13 23:06

    Hello,
    now I am reading your experience with shopping new tractor. And I have to smile, because my practise with shopping new tractor in Czech republic is the same! I think, that in my country is a little bit worse. If you ask any dealer which you choose. The first question your dealer is: Where are you from? Oh yeah, your dealer is ... you must ask him. Ok you call the specific dealer, which has your region. And he tell the price. But at the first, he write your name and the price of tractor , which you want to online database. If you ask any other dealer, the other dealer at the first time ask of your name and look to the database. And say the same price...this means...this is monopol - no COMPETITION !


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    1. Hi.

      Thanks for your comment!!!

      Unfortunately, Spanish farmers have the same problem.

      Best regards.

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